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Excessive unit-size wagers (100+ units) should be prohibited in forum pick threads at BMR going forward

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KVB

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If you have a routine of betting a certain amount then suddenly increase that amount 50x, 100x, 200x etc after a losing streak then it’s pretty clear you are air mailing

Also if you go from $10 bets to like $2000 or $3000 on the same type of event, then your unit size should be higher

Not sure what brought about this thread but yeah, talking about units when you are making 20x or 30x your "unit" doesn't have a real practical sense to it.

When it comes to the tracking, I would do a few things. I've been known for meticulous tracking, and tracking far more than just the profit and loss, including closing line comparisons and other info...including a unit chart to show where I was and where I am now. I never changed the risk size though.

I would track that wild bettor a couple of ways. First, set up different tracking for different bet sizes, which isn't very good overall. Second, perhaps display an average bet size with average odds, also not very good.

Or, to avoid picking apart types of play and types of bets, you could show a record, average bet size, and then the all important ROI.

Between ROI and charts showing the overall units and/or record since the beginning you can really get the picture of what is going on. You can see the variance in risk and the sudden change in the "units" with that 20 or 30 unit bomb win or loss.

Is there someone we need to audit, Stormy?
 

KVB

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Keep the risk flat.

If you're betting 10-1 dogs then you get 9 losses before you can get a win and break even. This is proper gambling, for lack of bettor term.

But if you lose 9 "1 unit" plays at even money or so, and then make it up with a 10 unit bomb that wins, you really didn't do yourself a favor. Eventually, that strategy will bite you in the ass.
 

stormtrooper8

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Not sure what brought about this thread but yeah, talking about units when you are making 20x or 30x your "unit" doesn't have a real practical sense to it.

When it comes to the tracking, I would do a few things. I've been known for meticulous tracking, and tracking far more than just the profit and loss, including closing line comparisons and other info...including a unit chart to show where I was and where I am now. I never changed the risk size though.

I would track that wild bettor a couple of ways. First, set up different tracking for different bet sizes, which isn't very good overall. Second, perhaps display an average bet size with average odds, also not very good.

Or, to avoid picking apart types of play and types of bets, you could show a record, average bet size, and then the all important ROI.

Between ROI and charts showing the overall units and/or record since the beginning you can really get the picture of what is going on. You can see the variance in risk and the sudden change in the "units" with that 20 or 30 unit bomb win or loss.

Is there someone we need to audit, Stormy?
Agree with this post, some solid ideas
 
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stormtrooper8

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Is there someone we need to audit, Stormy?
Yes, and he has been audited/called out by quite a few people.

Poster is having an awful year, then got back into the black by hitting a single 200-unit wager which he didn't specify the price of the bet, or if he was risking that amount/if it was to win that amount

A poster found out that the price was about -190, so he claims now he risked 380 units to win 200 units after the wager hit.

Does it actually make a difference in the world? Not really. And honestly I think we all want posters to win. But to me it seems like a gateway to some pretty pathetic and scummy behavior.

A gambling forum is exactly supposed to be a pillar of morality, but this behavior is pretty blatantly awful.
 

stormtrooper8

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Yep. That's how I post my plays.
I think I've gone with a 2 unit play once this season just because it was huge +EV.
Yep and small deviations like that are worth it when you see extra value

I tend to do 3-5 unit wages occasionally, mostly on futures but sometimes on regular plays (though very rarely)

Most of mine are single unit plays though
 

jjgold

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Mike a good friend of mine nothing to do with gambling

There is no rule on the books
Implementing it with moderation is a daunting task

There was a vote on the board , 4-1 no moderation it’s up to posters to self police .
 
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