Russia/Ukraine Crisis 🪖

[Wagerallsports]

This thread feels like a Russian propagandist thread.

Tough to take some of this seriously when a nuclear armed state invades a sovereign nation, occupies and mines the territyor, and somehow it's everyone else's fault.

"Biden is provoking nuclear war with Russia"

This thread has a real credibility problem.

I wouldn’t say this thread

It’s people as of late that are changing their opinion

It much the same story as with Israel and the Palestinians

People forget easily who attacked who first

 

[Wagerallsports]

^^^
However, it seems to me we should be helping Israel, our true ally, much more than Ukraine

I do believe now that some of our government is getting kickbacks from all of those billions sent over to Ukraine that are untracked

 

[KVB]

I wouldn’t say this thread

It’s people as of late that are changing their opinion

It awwmapretty much the same story as with Israel and the Palestinians

People forget easily who attacked who first

Yeah, I guess I was just noticing that string of tweets on that last page, not to say that's the whole thread.

Saw some definite, ministry produced, propaganda.

 

[KVB]

However, it seems to me we would be helping Israel, our true ally, much more than we would be Ukraine

We should be helping all our friends and allies, especially Ukraine.

Russia didn't want to play along, after all this time, and was content being the world's gas station. Now they seek to fracture the world order.

I may have my issues with the New World Order, but Russia seeks more than to fight that.

It's time to bankrupt Russia, like we did the Soviet Union.

 

[Wagerallsports]

Yeah, I guess I was just noticing that string of tweets on that last page, not to say that's the whole thread.

Saw some definite, ministry produced, propaganda.

Russia has always claimed that there are crooked ties between our current U.S. led government, and Ukraine

Sounded like BS initially

But the more literal craziness we see over here from our White House, the more it looks like we the people don’t know half the story

 

[Wagerallsports]

We should be helping all our friends and allies, especially Ukraine.

Russia didn't want to play along, after all this time, and was content being the world's gas station. Now they seek to fracture the world order.

I may have my issues with the New World Order, but Russia seeks more than to fight that.

It's time to bankrupt Russia, like we did the Soviet Union.

Just curious, did you watch the Putin-Ticket Carlson interview?

 

[Wagerallsports]

Yeah, I guess I was just noticing that string of tweets on that last page, not to say that's the whole thread.

Saw some definite, ministry produced, propaganda.

Yeah I just grab & post what’s hot & popular here in political forum lol

 

[KVB]

Just curious, did you watch the Putin-Ticket Carlson interview?

Yeah, I also saw Carlson make a fool of himself while touring Russia.

In my opinion, Putin used Carlson like the useful idiot he desperately wants to be.

Remember, I'm not some "crazy lib" I'm a long time conservative that's embarrassed at everything I'm seeing out there.

 

[KVB]

I have been going into the policies of the conservatives that are making Trump there useful idiot and I really don't know if I even have a political home anymore. At least one that matters.

 

[Wagerallsports]

I have been going into the policies of the conservatives that are making Trump there useful idiot and I really don't know if I even have a political home anymore. At least one that matters.

I guess the one way you can look at it is that at least one side is still sane

If the democrats win again there may never be a vote again as they are crazy for total control

 

[KVB]

I guess the one way you can look at it is that at least one side is still sane

If the democrats win again there may never be a vote again as they are crazy for total control

Both sides are crazy for control, both getting it and keeping it.

As I weigh the sides, for real, and not based on cable news and all that loud shit that creates low info uneducated voters, I begin to seriously wonder if a second Trump term may be the worse of the two.

The chaos that was the first Trump presidency won't happen again. His handlers have learned and intend to be much more efficient.

To be honest, I watch every Trump rally I can and listen to what he says and have some serious concerns. I here what his allies and policy makers say, and I have some serious concerns.

I have concerns for the other side too, but right now my research is focused on the conservative side and while I agree with many of the ends they seek, and disagree with many, the methods are as unAmerican as it gets.

Populism and Nationalism can be dangerous in the wrong leadership hands.

I'm real sick and tired of hearing about how it's "us vs them" when it's not. It's us and it's only vs. ourselves when there's obstruction and gridlock.

 

[Wagerallsports]

The chaos that was the first Trump presidency won't happen again. His handlers have learned and intend to be much more efficient.

I agree it won’t happen again

Do you know why it didn’t go well the first time around?

Bad Timing

Obama had already divided people of all races

Having a white president wasn’t something people were used to again after 8 years

Hell it was probably considered ‘Racist’ like everything else

But people are coming around and figuring out that we aren’t each others’ enemy

Everyone getting along is our government’s biggest fear

At least those that are currently in office

Much has changed in the last 12 months when I never would have imagined Trump could/would win again

 

[KVB]

Do you know why it didn’t go well the first time around?

I disagree.

I think it didn't go well the first time around because I don't think Trump expected to win. Nobody planned for it because they didn't think it would happen.

Until it did.

 

[Wagerallsports]

I disagree.

I think it didn't go well the first time around because I don't think Trump expected to win. Nobody planned for it because they didn't think it would happen.

Until it did.

You could be right

I remember watching with my nephew and were surprised when it began to look like he was going to pull it off

 

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