Thanks for the debate guys, even though no opinions would ever be changed here it gets that little debate itch out of the way. sadly I do get that little itch now and again.
and in a nice decent atmosphere where we aren't trying to kill each other or wish each other sure death
If you can't see what's wrong, then it's you and people like you that are part of the problem.
A gun is an inanimate object. It's not capable of good or evil or anything else.
If you can't see this then your deluded mind can't be helped.
If you also can't see a radical leftist San Francisco politician threatening to use federal agents to invade law abiding citizens homes, then you are a part of the problem.
I've met a lot of people like you. You think you're never wrong. You don't think it's even possible for you to be wrong.
It is delusional thinking at best, and mental illness if not treated properly.