Shit talking that went on in SOD POD #7

[edawg]

My Ohio State Buckeyes have around 60 black guys on roster (somewhere around there)

So you think 20-25 of them are/are going to be felons in their life?

Cuz that’s what your made up stat says we should expect.

Before you go try to defame my team, there are zero felons currently.

Your sample size is starting with 18-23 year olds with a work ethic, responsibility, basically a job, and hope for a better future. Every statistic can look good or bad it is all what the person making them want too portrayed it as.

 

[MinnesotaFats]

Your sample size is starting with 18-23 year olds with a work ethic, responsibility, basically a job, and hope for a better future. Every statistic can look good or bad it is all what the person making them want too portrayed it as.

Exactly. Even I wasn't brash enough to say "ok, let's go the projects on Chicago's south side and pull 60 addicts outta there and run their backgrounds"

My God, you'd find a 70% felony rate and probably a few committing felonies at the time of approaching them lol

Just ridiculous cognitive limitations when arguing actual factual data with emotion based beliefs. Honestly- it's the same w religious zealots as well to be fair.

 

[stormtrooper8]

Your sample size is starting with 18-23 year olds with a work ethic, responsibility, basically a job, and hope for a better future. Every statistic can look good or bad it is all what the person making them want too portrayed it as.

And yet this racist clown claimed that these 18-23 year olds are intellectually inferior and make poor decisions as a result of being black, whereas whiter teams don’t have intellectual llimitations. Basically said that their blackness was the reason for losing games — which is strange given that any college powerhouse has a sizeable black population

I understand what you’re trying to say about context, but claiming that 38% of black people commit felonies is borderline retarded no matter the context. It obviously is nowhere near true, and anyone with a reasonable and unbiased brain can understand this…..pretty clear MinnyFats is just an emotional, biased sack of shit.

MinnyFats is obviously a racist. Frankly as long as he posts about sports and keeps his awful beliefs to himself then there won’t be an issue. But if he continues to be so openly racist — like calling the black a race an “epidemic”, as one example — then me and others will call it out and hopefully the site takes care of him. The things he says are fucking disgusting, and I’m far from the only one here who thinks that….

 

[MinnesotaFats]

I'm "obviously " a racist lol

You don't even know me

You have my quotes based on data from the State & Federal Government.

Any website that ends in .gov is most certainly NOT a bastian of conservative data lol

As for intellectual capacity in football let's just look at the NFLs position on coach hires.

1- the NFL had what, 1 black head coach last year? There's a reason for this...all you have to do is look at Notre Dame or FSU.

2- the NFL mandates now teams hire black coordinators. Why? Because there simply aren't enough qualified applicants for the job to meet the racial diversity required of employers who operate within publicly funded facilities

3- Black wonderlick scores are barely half of whites in the NFL providing a quantifiable measurement of intellectual superiority



4- collegiate GPA data is a DISASTER for blacks, as the disparity in the under 2.5 category is disgusting



5- couple links:

HS GPA black men underperformed EVERY race/ sex combo

Average GPA in High School 2024 and Past Years - ThinkImpact

Statistics on the average GPA in high schools show that the scores have been increasing. Check out the latest statistics and past data.

www.thinkimpact.com

And of course math & SAT scores are "routinely lower" according to Brookings

SAT math scores mirror and maintain racial inequity | Brookings

The math section of the SAT mirrors race gaps—what can we do about it?

www.google.com

So there ya go... tell me I'm a racist instead of why the facts are what they are.

 

[JDS]

This thread is interesting af. I love the passionate debate.

 

[stormtrooper8]

I'm "obviously " a racist lol

You don't even know me

You have my quotes based on data from the State & Federal Government.

Any website that ends in .gov is most certainly NOT a bastian of conservative data lol

As for intellectual capacity in football let's just look at the NFLs position on coach hires.

1- the NFL had what, 1 black head coach last year? There's a reason for this...all you have to do is look at Notre Dame or FSU.

2- the NFL mandates now teams hire black coordinators. Why? Because there simply aren't enough qualified applicants for the job to meet the racial diversity required of employers who operate within publicly funded facilities

3- Black wonderlick scores are barely half of whites in the NFL providing a quantifiable measurement of intellectual superiority

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4- collegiate GPA data is a DISASTER for blacks, as the disparity in the under 2.5 category is disgusting

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5- couple links:

HS GPA black men underperformed EVERY race/ sex combo

Average GPA in High School 2024 and Past Years - ThinkImpact

Statistics on the average GPA in high schools show that the scores have been increasing. Check out the latest statistics and past data.

www.thinkimpact.com

And of course math & SAT scores are "routinely lower" according to Brookings

SAT math scores mirror and maintain racial inequity | Brookings

The math section of the SAT mirrors race gaps—what can we do about it?

www.google.com

So there ya go... tell me I'm a racist instead of why the facts are what they are.

You’re kinda making my point with these test scores, which I coincidentally mentioned earlier in the thread

Blacks and Hispanics both score significantly lower on these tests, but the gaps have nothing to do with innate ability or intellectual capacity. SAT performance is linked to economic status more than anything, as wealthier people have a major advantage in prepping for these exams. That’s why these tests are being eliminated and redone as we speak…:.to try and make it more fair for everyone who doesn’t have the resources to do better

This isn’t just my opinion, this is well-known in the education industry. Funny how you mention the gap in test scores, but completely ignore the REASONS for the gap

You thinking that these scores shows that one race is inherently intellectually superior to another is blatantly racist. No race is intellectually superior to another

Seriously man, quit your bullshit

 

[stormtrooper8]

This thread is interesting af. I love the passionate debate.

I wouldn’t call it a debate.

You seem like a good enough guy. Don’t legitimize his bullshit

 

[JDS]

if Le Martin has any real balls. She’ll come in this thread and tell her opinion on the subject. So far she’s been leaving her homeboy stormy in the cawksucking wind. I know she’s out of town so let’s give her a day or two.

 

[JDS]

I wouldn’t call it a debate.

You seem like a good enough guy. Don’t legitimize his bullshit

I’m calling it a debate, you might not call it a debate but I am.

 

[Wagerallsports]

There's good & bad in every race these days

Always a dangerous conversation

But there are facts simple as that

 

[stormtrooper8]

I’m calling it a debate, you might not call it a debate but I am.

Yeah I mean saying 38% of blacks are felons without a single shred of evidence (hint: cuz it doesn’t exist) is pretty ridiculous. It’s kinda sad that people there are unfortunately people who have no sense of numbers and are dumb enough to think that’s a legit statistic.

His whole argument is that blacks are inferior to whites…..the fact that he’s even trying to make that argument is blatantly racist.

Nothing he’s cited has actually supported that argument, because it’s an impossible argument to support

It doesn’t help that he’s blatantly called the black race a plague and and an epidemic. Not sure why BMR tolerates this guy after that to be honest

 

[MinnesotaFats]

You’re kinda making my point with these test scores, which I coincidentally mentioned earlier in the thread

Blacks and Hispanics both score significantly lower on these tests, but the gaps have nothing to do with innate ability or intellectual capacity. SAT performance is linked to economic status more than anything, as wealthier people have a major advantage in prepping for these exams. That’s why these tests are being eliminated and redone as we speak…:.to try and make it more fair for everyone who doesn’t have the resources to do better

This isn’t just my opinion, this is well-known in the education industry. Funny how you mention the gap in test scores, but completely ignore the REASONS for the gap

You thinking that these scores shows that one race is inherently intellectually superior to another is blatantly racist. No race is intellectually superior to another

Seriously man, quit your

No No, wealth is a testament to intelligence and in the information age, when the answers to everything are merely a click away, when students don't need to find a library or require access to anything beyond the internet, which major cities supply free of charge, there is no reason for a score gap, and as much as the latinon& black is maligned, Noone credits the Asian community for its high scores...Asian Americans are literally 1 or 2 generations at this point, removed from refugee status- its amazing how well they have assimilated & excelled.

Now, if the data & facts aren't enough to end the debate here, how about the University of Delawares conclusion. It's a very indepth study, 30 years of IQ & cognitive testing, you can DL that publishing # i inserted, the PDF for free, here's the cover page.



And FYI a cognitive test/ IQ test isn't impacted by wealth. You either put the circle in the circle, or you try to put it in the rectangle. 5x5=25 or it doesn't.

The willingness to make excuse after excuse is astounding. What is the excuse for this AMAZING stat? 85% of blacks in Virginia (that's DC) cannot do math or read. 85% is an epidemic.

 

[MinnesotaFats]

Stormy, here it is again for you. 33%. Government data, public institution, 3rd verified source.

 

[stormtrooper8]

But there are facts simple as that

There are facts, but if you’re dumb enough they can lead you to the wrong conclusion

 

[Capitalist Pig]

It all starts as a kid with having parents who care, if your parents take the time to raise you right, regardless of race your odds of not becoming a jailbird and doing well in school are going to be much better. There are way to many single moms out there collecting welfare and living off the government because the Dad is unknown or they don’t lock the Dad up for not paying child support.

 

[stormtrooper8]

There's good & bad in every race these days

Always a dangerous conversation

But there are facts simple as that

Also important to note that making up numbers (aka 38% of blacks are felons) does not constitute a fact

I’m sure you aren’t referring to that though, as I know you’re not a dumb guy

 

[carolinakid]

you are 100% correct, it all starts with the family, what you black, white, pink, or green

 

[JDS]

if Le Martin has any real balls. She’ll come in this thread and tell her opinion on the subject. So far she’s been leaving her homeboy stormy in the cawksucking wind. I know she’s out of town so let’s give her a day or two.

I say this because I’ve had this conversation with her and I know where she stands. Let’s see what kind of person she is, or maybe she’s just “all talk”.

 

[Wagerallsports]

It all starts as a kid with having parents who care, if your parents take the time to raise you right, regardless of race your odds of not becoming a jailbird and doing well in school are going to be much better. There are way to many single moms out there collecting welfare and living off the government because the Dad is unknown or they don’t lock the Dad up for not paying child support.

Good post here and true in a large percentage of cases

 

[stormtrooper8]

No No, wealth is a testament to intelligence and in the information age, when the answers to everything are merely a click away, when students don't need to find a library or require access to anything beyond the internet, which major cities supply free of charge, there is no reason for a score gap, and as much as the latinon& black is maligned, Noone credits the Asian community for its high scores...Asian Americans are literally 1 or 2 generations at this point, removed from refugee status- its amazing how well they have assimilated & excelled.

Now, if the data & facts aren't enough to end the debate here, how about the University of Delawares conclusion. It's a very indepth study, 30 years of IQ & cognitive testing, you can DL that publishing # i inserted, the PDF for free, here's the cover page.

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And FYI a cognitive test/ IQ test isn't impacted by wealth. You either put the circle in the circle, or you try to put it in the rectangle. 5x5=25 or it doesn't.

The willingness to make excuse after excuse is astounding. What is the excuse for this AMAZING stat? 85% of blacks in Virginia (that's DC) cannot do math or read. 85% is an epidemic.

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So you think a kid who has cheap internet access has equal chance to do as well as a kid who has thousands of dollars to pour into test prep, tutoring, etc ?

God you can’t be this dumb…..well I guess maybe you can

Obviously there are cases where kids do overcome these adverse circumstances, but on average the kid with the resources is way more likely to succeed. This is not something that is debated and is well accepted by people who make these exams. It’s not controversial lol

The College Board (the company that makes the SAT) and other organizations have literally said that the inequity is the reason the system is changing

If there was no issue with it, then why are they making eliminating these tests as we know it?